Machine Learning · 2026-11-02

bf16 Rounding Silently Discards Most RL Policy Updates: A Hidden Training-Inference Mismatch and an Unbiased One-Line Fix

arXiv:2610.41073v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: Reinforcement learning (RL) post-training of language models keeps fp32 master weights in the optimizer and serves rollouts from a bf16 copy produced by round-to-nearest conversion. At the learning rates in common use, most per-step updates are smaller than half a bf16 spacing and the conversion discards them: on Qwen3-1.7B only 0.4-0.5% of served weights change per…

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arXiv:2610.41073v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: Reinforcement learning (RL) post-training of language models keeps fp32 master weights in the optimizer and serves rollouts from a bf16 copy produced by round-to-nearest conversion. At the learning rates in common use, most per-step updates are smaller than half a bf16 spacing and the conversion discards them: on Qwen3-1.7B only 0.4-0.5% of served weights change per step, and the policy that generates the training data lags the optimizer by 50-150 steps. Existing mismatch corrections cannot see this lag because they compare two copies downstream of the same rounding. We propose Fair Cast: export the master with an unbiased rounding rule (stochastic rounding or error feedback) and compute the training loss on the served copy.

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